Who is Jesus?
Some thoughts to consider:
One God....Jesus is Emmanuel meaning God with us....Jesus is the image of the invisible God....the name Jesus is the only saving name (Acts 4:12), Jesus said if you've seen Me, you've seen the Father...I and my Father are ONE.
God robed Himself in flesh to be able to shed Blood for us.
There won't be three thrones in Heaven with one for a Father God and another for a little junior Son God...John saw one throne with One sitting upon the throne. Jesus will be sitting on the throne as the only image of the Invisible Spirit that we will ever see.
If the trinity doctrine is correct and not manmade by the church of Rome (Catholics) then there's a problem because Jesus would then have two fathers...the Father and also the Spirit (Holy Ghost).
Catholics coined a deceptive trinity phrase "God the Son" that's nowhere in the Bible.
When you say Jesus, you say Father, Son, Holy Ghost, Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, Creator and the list goes on.
Jesus is the Mighty God in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself!
Jesus said "except ye believe that I am He (God), ye shall die in your sins."
All daughters of Rome believe the catholic doctrine of the trinity sadly.
Even Matthew 28:19 lets you know Him....
What is the....
Name...of the Father...
Name...of the Son...
Name...of the Holy Ghost....
Only Jesus fits the Name....
For there is NO other name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved....Acts 4:12
When you say Jesus...you identify Father, Son, Spirit and every other attribute of God because Jesus was "God robed in flesh dwelling among us."
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH:
The First church was NOT Trinitarian....
With the omnipresence of God in mind we can understand the baptism of Christ very easily. It was not at all difficult for the Spirit of Jesus to speak from heaven and to send a manifestation of His Spirit in the form of a dove even while His human body was in the Jordan River. The voice and the dove do not represent separate persons just like the voice of God from Sinai indicates that the mountain was a separate intelligent person in the Godhead.
The Bible says that Jesus is the "image" of the invisible God....the flesh was just the part that walked earth and that they saw. The original Greek of the word image means "icon"....much like software on a computer today....the icon on the screen isn't separate from the program installed on the hard drive.....it's just the part you see that represents every thing about the program and makes the entire program open and work.
A scribe asked Jesus, "Which is the first commandment of all?" He replied, "Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord". This is the most important doctrine in the Bible. Old Testament saints called the Father, "Lord." Jesus is Lord. The Lord is "that Spirit," (2 Corinthians 3:17). These are not three Lords, but One. Jesus is the only body of the invisible God you will ever see. Mark 12:30 - "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength."
Jesus is the Almighty God come in flesh to walk among us, be the final ultimate sacrificial Lamb and usher in the New Testament dispensation of grace, the dispensation we're currently living under. John 1:1 says God was the Word and then in verse 14 It says the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
John 10:33... the Jews wanted to stone Jesus for saying He was God.
John14:8-10.... Phillip asked to see the Father and Jesus said I've been with you so long and still you don't know (me). Contextually Jesus was very clearly calling Himself the Father.
1Tim 3:16 ...says (God) was manifested in the (flesh).
Jesus said "I and my Father are one"....another place He said "if you've seen Me you've seen the Father."
Jesus in another place said "except he believe that I am He (God) he shall die in your sins."
They called Jesus "Emmanuel, meaning God with us."
The Scripture says that Jesus is the "....Mighty God, Everlasting Father and the Prince of Peace."
Much like Paul's salutations where he would make reference to "God "and" Jesus Christ our Savior"....first, there is only one savior, God and secondly the word "and" in the original language and lost in translation actually means "even" which when taken out of the original language that had much more color and meaning says "God "even" Jesus Christ..." combining Jesus and God not dividing them.
The word trinity isn't in the Bible and the man made Latin term "trinitas" our modern day word being trinity, was coined in their third century by Tertullion which was eventually excommunicated by even Catholicism yet his teachings and self coined words continued to be taught because of political pressure to please everyone.
John 14:16-18..... Jesus talks about the Comforter and He calls Himself the Spirit of truth which is the Holy Ghost-verse 26.
Colossians2:9 ....In Jesus dwells ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
The only time we will ever see God is in the glorified body of Jesus Christ.
2 Corinthians5:19.....God was in Christ reconciling the world unto Himself.
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last, the one and only true and wise God.
Taking too much time but with the few Scriptures that are fuzzy, it's important to take very clear verses and reconcile all verses together....really all one needs is to see that Jesus was called Emmanuel being interpreted "God with us".... God was "robed in flesh and dwelt among us".... and Jesus clearly said "If you've seen Me, then you've seen the Father....I and My Father are One."
Much like the cross....either God came and died for us or He didn't.
If He sat on His throne in Heaven while He sent a second person of His being to do the dying....then all of God was not crucified on the cross and a supposed "God the Father" coped out and sent little "God the son" do the dirty work I guess while God the Spirit stood by and watched. No, God Himself had no flesh or blood, the Scripture says, He came and robed Himself in a fleshly body so He could die Himself for us and that's why when we get to Heaven, there will be "one sitting upon THE throne" Paul said....not two or three thrones or one big throne and one or two more little thrones.
To understand it all is to understand that Jesus was the God man, both man and God, flesh and divinity all wrapped up in one package....as God with no flesh, He robed Himself in a body called Jesus and as God Jesus spoke to the winds, sickness and demons and even forgave sins which only God can do but His flesh part also became weary, he drank water and ate food but He was still the image that God had wrapped Himself in.
On the cross when Jesus cried out, His flesh was crying out to His divinity....His flesh part felt abandoned, was bleeding and hurting and wanted down but His God part looked over at the repentant their, and under the rules of the dispensation of the law, He spoke as only God can do and told the man "today you will be with Me (not us) in paradise."
I Timonthy 3:16....truly there is a mystery surrounding how Jesus could be both God and man, undivided, at the same time....but the verse itself answers the mystery with a profound statement that "...God was manifest in the flesh...."
God is never a divided entity....there can only be one Almighty and if subdivided into three equal parts, then there's no Almighty but three coegual parts all subject to one another thus requiring three thrones because each would want his own throne.
Truly God was manifest in the flesh, robed in flesh and dwelt among us, called Emmanuel God with us, was the flesh part of God created and became image of the invisible God that could die for us, is the Almighty God and Everlasting Father come in flesh among us and will the one sitting on the one thrown embodying and exemplifying God and will be the only One, the Lamb, that will be opening the Book and books to judge and Jesus will be the final Judge as only God can be.
Regarding the question about Paul describing Jesus sitting at the "right hand" of the Father,
Jesus is sitting by Himself.
Paul, the same apostle that described seeing Jesus sitting at the right hand in that verse, with right hand contextually meaning "in the power and position of" meaning he saw Jesus sitting in the full power and position of God because He was God...God robed in flesh....before the Scripture calls God the "invisible God" but then Jesus became "the image (icon) of the invisible God" the Bible says therefore giving God a manifested body that could actually now be seen, felt and could shed blood.
The same apostle Paul, in anither place said "I saw ONE sitting upon THE throne" very clearly denoting singularity and God not subdivided into different parts but one God, who in times past was invisible but now has made Himself a body to become visible, seen and available to be sacrificed at the hands of His creation...God the Father didn't send another coeaual part to do His work...He left glory, put Himself in a body and became our ultimate, Supreme sacrifice.
Another way to say it is that Father, Son and Holy Ghost are simply descriptions of parts of God's attributes just like all of the Jehovinistic compound names such as Jehovah Shalom then things such as Him telling Moses, not His name, but He told Moses to call Him the "I Am That I Am"....God described Himself and His many different attributes with many different descriptions however when He created a body inside of Mary to be born so that He could come and manifest Himself to the world and have a body that He Himself could lay it down, shed its blood and His body die, it was at that point the name Jesus was finally revealed....Moses asked to know what to tell them when they asked who had sent him and all He got was the name of an attribute but when God came Himself and became Emmanuel, God with us, it was at that time He revealed His proper name that He had kept secret up until that time....that's why the Bible says "do all you do in word or deed in the name of Jesus" because that's God's proper name and even demons are subject to His actual name....that's what many bless their food in Jesus name, pray for blessings in Jesus name and should actually baptize using His proper name and not just repeat the command of Matthew 28:19 and repeat three of His attributes....that's why you see the disciples preaching about actually using His name in baptism in Acts 2 when they Jews asked how they were supposed to be saved under the new dispensation after having killed Jesus and then the book of Acts, which is the history book of the first century church under the new covenant, describes and gives examples in Acts chapters 8, 10 and 19 of them preaching and actually baptizing and helping people truly receive the Spirit of God according to Peter's sermon and according to Jesus' command in John 3:5 on the only way a person can get to Heaven.
As far as the reference to "create man in our image"....Ephesians 2:11 explains God was in "counsel of His own will" meaning in that time, and even still some in our time in some countries, kings used what is called the "majestic plural" meaning they refer to themselves in the third person....Jesus being the only wise king, as the Scripture says, is truly the King of all Kings, therefore, if any king has the right to use the majestic plural, then He sure does being the King of Kings.
Great conversation and I honor you for caring enough about the Lord and His Word to explore these issues....truly they are spiritual life and death issues so getting then right has eternal consequences....I pray we all grasp everything He has for us!
The humanity of Christ was born,the divinity inside of Him was always in existence.
A point you may consider is that the Bible never says "God the son"....only the "Begotten Son".... Having a body and naming it Jesus was only a concept in God's mind for the total redemption of man but it wasn't until the baby was born did God robe Himself in that flesh and reveal His actual proper name.
Additionally, the Scripture calls the "Father" the father but it also calls the "Holy Ghost/Spirit" the father so outside of the teaching of Jesus Himself that He and the Father were one and that if someone had seen Him, they also saw the Father because in John 10:30 Jesus declared that "I and my Father are one" then one would have to contemplate that Jesus had two fathers which then begins to really bend the Scriptures out of shape.
God was a spirit and had no flesh or blood. To become our Supreme Sacrifical Lamb, He had to have a body so the Spirit/Father impregnated Mary and God's human body, named Jesus, was born.
We know from John 1:1 & 14 that these verses alone let us know who Jesus is....
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God....and the Word (God) was made flesh (Jesus)..."
From this text alone, the Bible lets us know:
Word = God
Word = Flesh (Jesus)
God = Flesh (Jesus)
Colossians 1:15 let's us know that Jesus is "....the image of the invisible God..."
Isaiah 9:6 is very clear that Jesus (God's earthly body) is the Mighty God & Everlasting Father.
I Timothy 3:16 God was "....robed in flesh (Jesus) and dwelt among us...."
These few texts alone make it clear that God and Jesus are not two different entities but one and the same, that's why Jesus said "If you've seen Me, then you've seen the Father....I and My Father are One."
From this quick overview, it is clear that God being a Spirit needed a human body to shed blood with to be our final Sacrifice so the Spirit (God/Father) created the flesh and named the body Jesus thus finally revealing His actual name, no longer refering to Himself with His attributes such as I Am, Jehovah Nissi, etc but now He gave us His revealed name when He created Himself a body.
In a quick summary, Revelation 4:2 lets us know there is only ONE throne in Heaven and only ONE will be sitting upon that throne and it will be Jesus.
Jesus is the Almighty Creator of the Universe come down, made flesh and dwelt among humanity to become our final sacrifice so therefore to worship the One True God, we worship Jesus and praise His name because it's the name of Almighty God, Jesus name, that is the only name that has power to save....if one is not baptized in the only saving name of God and filled with the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost) he will not be saved....(Acts 4:12, John 3:5, Acts 2:38)
Jesus is the King of Kings, Lord of Lords, God of all gods and thus we worship Jesus as the One True Living God!
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JESUS CHRIST IS GOD ALMIGHTY....
THE CHURCH OF ROME/CATHOLICISM IS THE GREAT WHORE OF REVELATION AND PERVERTED THE GOSPEL JUST AS JESUS PROPHESIED.
The TRINITY is a man made term & dogma propagated by the church of rome who perverted the original doctrine. Everyone who teaches the trinity teaches the catholic doctrine and is therefore catholic in your belief....not believing as the original apostles taught or believed. Teachers and believers of the man made trinity makes the pope happy because they fall in line with his teaching and are like him in doctrinal belief. Most mainline denominal churches sadly are nothing more than trinity teaching catholic-lites.
The church of rome/catholicism changed the baptismal formula & convoluted the Godhead....sadly much of Christendom teaches the trinity doctrine of the catholic organization making them core doctrinally the same as catholicism. Jesus told us in Revelation that the Great Whore of Rome would do these things and lead many to hell. It's a sad truth many refuse to see and will one day wake up in eternity realizing they were deceived by a manmade doctrine from a catholic organization who perverted the original gospel, who worship idols and is pagan in origin and is the Great Whore that God made clear He hates.
JESUS CHRIST IS GOD ALMIGHTY ROBED IN FLESH....HE'S NOT PART OF A CONVOLUTED, MAN MADE, PLURALISTIC, PAGAN TRINITY.....
I Timothy 3:16: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit,seen of angels,preach unto the gentiles.
Right hand symbolizes power...Jesus assumed the full power of God because he was God robed in flesh....Emmanuel.
I Timothy 3:16....GOD was manifest in the FLESH (JESUS)
John 1:1, 14
Word = God
Word = flesh
God = Jesus
Be careful reducing Jesus to just a part of a pagan, catholic pluralistic entity....Conversely; if you believe the manmade trinity, you are not a Christian but a Roman Catholic.
There is only one God and He said He knows no other and will share power with no other. For us to split Him up into multiple little gods is paganism.
Ephesians 1:11 lets us know He was in counsel of His own will.
In other words, He was talking to Himself about His plans.
There is also what is called the Majestic Plural where royalty speaks of themselves in the third person.
There were not multiple little gods discussing creation among themselves.
If we're going to split God up and claim He's broken up in co-equal, co-existant parts, due to His attributes of being Father, Son and Holy Ghost
(Spirit), then we might as well go ahead and split Him up even more due to His many attributes such as Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting, Lilly of the Valley...on and on His attributes go but those are NOT his name.
A split up, fragmented godhead doesn't speak well of God but turns Him into one of the many other pluralistic manmade gods of this world.
Jesus is Emmanuel being interpreted God With Us!
God robed Himself and flesh (Jesus) and dwelt among us.
Jesus is Who we will see sitting on the ONE throne in Heaven (not three thrones) in full authority as God because He is God.
Sadly many won't get to see Him on His throne in Heaven because they believe a perverted trinity gospel, changed and propogated by the evil catholic organization because Jesus Himself said "Except ye believe that I am He (God), ye shall die in your sins."
To reduce Jesus to a part of a split up, man made, pluralistic pagan godhead is to deny Who He really is and that will lead to spiritual death.
Even the Catholic encyclopedias admit they changed the mode of baptism to the trinity
Jesus...Emmanuel meaning God with us!
Jesus... Isaiah 9:6 Mighty God & Everlasting Father.
Jesus said before Abraham was I AM!
Jesus is the Great I Am of the Old and New Testaments that's why only baptism in His name, Jesus name, will save you...Acts 4:12
The trinity is manmade, roman dogma coming from the great whore of Revelation. Beware!
To say that God is actually three separate persons is mind boggling. You are mocking Jesus to His face and trampling thru His Blood.
Father, Son and Holy Ghost are just three of the many attributes of the One True God?
If in your case, one was to ascribe a separate person to each of God's attributes, He would by your definition have many persons....one person for Deliverer....another person for High Tower....another person for Wonderful....another person for Counsellor and the list goes on....
You're already promoting polytheism with splitting God into your prescribed three persons so you might as well embrace full blown polytheism and ascribe a person to every attribute of God in the Bible. God's only revealed name is Jesus....Jesus was Emmanuel being interpreted GOD WITH US!
(there can only be one Almighty....He is not split up sharing His power with others)
*** Catholics believe the apostle Peter was the first pope and, by default, those that teach their manmade trinitarian doctrine believe false doctrine. The Roman Catholic church [system] sees Peter as the first pope and they teach that Peter is the “rock.” If one was to read Matthew 16:15-18 carefully, they would see that the rock which Jesus would build His church on was Peter’s confession of faith. The Greek word for rock means “boulder” while Peter means “small stone.” and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. IF Peter was the first pope and you are supposed to listen to what you call your spiritual leader, then you would do as Peter said in Acts 2:38 when he told them what to do to be saved under the New Testament now that the law of the Old Testament had been superceded. Peter told them to (1) Repent, (2) be baptized actually in the name of Jesus so their sins could be taken away, (3) told them to receive the Holy Ghost which is our power to overcome (Acts 1:8) and the first example God gave us of humans receiving it was the Upper Room experience in Jersusalem when the Holy Ghost first fell. If you won't believe anyone else, believe Peter because his Acts 2:38 message fulfulled Jesus' command on how to be saved in John 3:5.
JESUS CHRIST IS GOD ALMIGHTY!
I TIMOTHY 3:16.... And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IS THE FLESH....
Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US....!
Isaiah 9:6 Jesus is the Everlasting Father....that's why when He was only in His early 30s He said "BEFORE Abraham was, I AM".... Not only did He precede Abraham but He also called Himself I AM.... the I AM of the Old Testament is the same I AM of the New Testament and He was called Emmanuel being interpreted "GOD WITH US"....Jesus, the GodMan, both human and Divine, was God robed in flesh so He could become our final, sacrificial Lamb to shed His Blood to wash our sins away permanently.
John saw ONE throne and ONE sitting upon THE throne. John did NOT see two or three thrones with a big Father God and then a little throne over to the side with a little Son God. God the Son isn't even a Biblical term or phrase.
God didn't send a second person of a manmade catholic trinity to do His dirty work....He created Himself a body so He Himself could shed Blood for our sins.
Jesus is the "image" (icon) of the Invisible God.
Jesus is King of Kings and Lord of Lords and for those that make it to Heaven, Jesus will be the ONE sitting upon THE throne that will be worshipped forever.
Very good material for someone with an open, sincere heart desiring pure truth....
Please read these:
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What Is Wrong With The Roman Catholic entity?:
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